I'll be real, the s650 doesn't even really look like a Camaro, it just has really pronounced hips, which was a design feature of even the '65 stang, but especially the '67-70 designs. I heard someone say the s650 was the worst looking mustang in history, and I couldn't tell if they were high, a troll, or just stupid.    Controversial opinion here, but from most angles imo, the s650 is just a better looking s550. I know that's gonna ruffle some feathers, but that's just my opinion. 

Figured I'd lump sales figures for the competition into one thread since individual ones don't get much traction.   GM:   Stellantis/FCA:   Toyota:     Toyota sold 474,000 Rav4's last year - crazy.  

It will be interesting to see if Ford expands the new 2.3L MPC engine architecture, now in Mustang and Explorer, to include a straight 6; or possibly even a new V6.  It seems the hard part is already done with the modular design.   My personal opinion is that much will depend on how much Ford commits to HEV, PHEV, and EREV, and also how much they emphasize fuel economy.  The 2.3L, especially with turbo, should be enough power for smaller hybrids, but if Ford tries to improve fuel economy as much as reasonably possible, they will likely need a larger-displacement Atkinson engine.  That’s where I see the highest probability for a new 3.4L MPC six cylinder engine; whether I-6 or V6.

Latest fill up was at $2.39 per gallon for regular in Childress, Texas.   Was surprised to find gas that cheap in a small town.  Passing back through Dallas / Ft Worth area gas was about 10 cents more expensive.  Back in Houston $2.39 was common.

Mustang "fans" are fickle-just look at all the hubbub whenever the Mustang changes generationally-normally coming from people who generally now own the "old" model    Over the past 30-40 years the worst (IMO) update to the Mustang was the 1999-2004 Mustang-leaving the roofline, which clashed with the "new edge" styling the rest of the car got. Otherwise the Mustang has gone through several updates over the past 25 years that have improved the look and performance of the car. I know the current gen gets attacked because the sides passingly look like a camaro's flanks, but that car doesn't even exist anymore. 

Comparison would be more meaningful to me if both cars were similar, like comparing BEV vs ICE Puma or any one of the BMWs offered as both BEV and ICE.  When comparing a 4-door SUV (which sell in high volume) to a 2-door sports car (which sell in very low volume), differences in vehicles themselves overshadow differences in powertrains.  And the comparison doesn’t address lack of profitability, which may only prove if you give stuff away someone out there will take it.   Agree with everything you said about Mach-E.  On the other hand don’t agree with article’s implied message that EVs are better than ICE because Mach-E SUV outsold a sports car.  BEVs may or may not be better, just saying this comparison means next to nothing.

Australia (Brisbane) - Diesel USD $4.77/gal - RON 91 / US 87  USD $4.00/gal - RON 95 /US 91   USD $5.00/gal - RON98 / US 93  USD $5.22/gal

But that isn't really a sports car-that is just a coupe that is sporty? https://media.ford.com/content/fordmedia/fna/us/en/news/2024/03/27/mustang-is-americas-best-selling-sports-car--tops-globally-for-1.html?clickref=1101lA8GdrQI&fmccmp=flexoffers-aff-0accessories&utm_source=flexoffers&utm_medium=affiliate&utm_campaign=partnerizeaccessories

Ford AUS had 1,000 Dark Horse allocation, all sold out months ahead of delivery. Small sales but this is an example of money in the bank for Ford.

Was probably a good one to let go as based on doubling the I-3 Dragon. If or when Ford revisits I-3, I-4, I-6 engine family, that will be primarily  to reduce engine plant count and simplify ICE production.   When Ford got all excited about early  BEV reservation and electrics ramping up more quickly,  the decision was made to spend as little as possible on the remaining ICE developments and refreshes. Keeping  existing engines going was the less costly option.