It all comes down to how many they want to sell.  CAFE may dictate slightly higher volumes.

When I looked up other performance sedans, there wasn’t much out there besides top trims. I don’t think I could name one that isn’t a top trim. We’ve already seen articles where ford was benchmarking the Cadillac black wing, so that is who ford thinks the competition is. Now, they could come in drastically lower in price with a base model, but that’s a tough sell to shell out $45k on a sedan and not get all the bells and whistles. Especially with accord and Camry starting at 28k and fully loaded models are less than $40k. My guess is that ford won’t offer a base trim. I’m thinking the equivalent of the mustang coupe premium trim will be the lowest they go, but still offer both engines. With ford wanting to maximize profits and seeing what the competition is charging, I still don’t see this starting less than $50k. Hope I’m wrong!

What happened with that one?  😂😱😉

It's very simple... Sales of coupe are headed to zero eventually but Ford needs to keep Mustang around because it is a sacred cow. These are the problems: CAFE compliance for the Mustang nameplate is impossible without longer wheelbase Flat Rock can only produce low profile vehicles Can't move Mustang production elsewhere because not enough volume to justify new tooling/production site Ford needs the Mustang name to be around because it is one of Farley's icons, along with Transit, F-Series, and Bronco. It is a lot more important to Ford than Camaro is to Chevy (for example) So the obvious solution is the make a longer wheelbase Mustang (for CAFE) and build it in Flat Rock (because you have to keep the plant open).   How do you make a longer wheelbase Mustang? You make it a sedan. This is the only way the 2 door S650 lives beyond 2026 - as an alternate body style of the volume 4 door sedan.   Ford will need to flip the volume of Mustang to favor sedans and minimizes the CAFE penalty by controlling the number of coupe and convertible it will sell. You already see the early part of this plan to move the Mustang coupe upmarket with GTD and more special editions - this is how Ford will control volume on the CAFE killing coupe. Ford will keep reducing the availability of coupe but they need the sedan to provide the volume to keep the plant operating at minimal viable level.    With only minimal plant investment, I think Ford can make the 4 door Mustang breakeven relatively easily. They didn't do it before because they didn't need to. But now they do... otherwise they cannot afford to keep the Mustang coupe around. 

Yeah that was my first Ecoboost product and I sold a few years back when I thought my Bronco came in. The FWD Ecoboosts have had water pump issues around the 80-100K mark. My wife had a 2017 Escape with the 2.0L Ecoboost and 6F transmission-no engine troubles outside of mice eating the wiring harness and her transmission was acting up, but didn't need a rebuild or anything before she got rid of it last summer. She had over 127K on it. 

The other issue i'm assuming was price-a Metris van started at 39K, so it was in the bad part of the goldie locks zone...too big and pricing wasn't the best for what you got. I'm guessing a Chrysler minivan cargo could be have for cheaper for roughly the same size.    I'm also thinking MBs luxury image didn't help it sell vans in the US market either. 

Correct.  Maybe not enough for it to be of concern but they definitely have as our city garage stated they just want to work on the simple stuff.  to be honest, I personally kind of agree as the idea of a non-turbo V8 in a Suburban is enticing over the turbos in the Expedition Max we currently have.  Will I probably get another Max, yes.  But the tug of war still exist in my mind and I now it does with fleet managers as well.

I don't go to casinos much except for birthday parties at a restaurant or a show, since I don't gamble. They have new vehicles on display in the main corridor at Mohegan Sun in CT. One was a new Chevy Silverado EV for $94,000!  I ordered two!  Anyway the place was mobbed!  Walking around later around 9 PM, I saw a Tesla store.  While every other place was open, the Tesla store was closed!

3.0 Nano is 418/450 which seems to have too much overlap with the Coyote for Mustang.  I think it makes sense for Lincoln instead of the Coyote especially considering the competition.

Those are probably State of CT owned vehicles!