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By Sherminator98 · Posted
I think the biggest hinderance (outside of charging) is the pricing. If Ford can sell the CE1 Pickup in some form for between $35-40K, they will be successful with it. Price party is what is hurting EV sales in the US. Its like the Rivian R2-its an Escape sized product that costs $50K plus-that is way too much for a mainstream product (not sure what Rivian is supposed to be slotting it as- luxury vehicle or what) If Ford can crack the C sized CUV EV product for less then $40K, they'll have a winner IMO -
In 2018, Uber (Rivian's new partner) made history as the company responsible for the first recorded case of a pedestrian fatality involving a self-driving car.
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This is some impressive technology 800v Architecture 463 horsepower and 476 lb-ft of torque 440 miles of range DC charging at up to 400kW,
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By twintornados · Posted
Cuautitlán Assembly is an interesting conundrum for Ford - they have owned it for decades and it has built all kinds of Fords big and small. A prediction would be a version of CE1 that can be made in both ICE, Hybrid and EV configurations for export to South America as well as brought into the North American market as market conditions dictate. I don't see them going through an overhaul of that factory to build out C2 when there is still plenty of production space at other Ford plants that currently manufacture C2 related product. Hermosillo, Valencia, Chongqing and Nanjiig to name a few comes to mind. -
Nice unit, 7 minutes (82) FORD F-550 FIRE TRUCK BUILD | QTAC SUPER 6™ - YouTube
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Mach E's plant is the big question mark......they'll have to do something with it. Since it's already set up for EV production, it makes some sense to keep it as an EV plant. However, with Ford shifting to a completely different construction method for CE1, you'd be gutting the factory anyway to change to that, leaving the door open for a switch back to ICE (another C2 plant?) Ford's back and forth product decisions just seems like massive wastes and shuffling deck chairs around on the Titanic (not implying Ford is going under, just that the plant usage is nuts).
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I don't think anyone is "dismissing" the losses. Just looking at it realistically. 1) naturally big upfront losses will happen when you're setting up future product without the future product on sale to start earning back money 2) all manufacturers jumped out over their skis due to pending gov't regulations that have been walked back, so all companies are losing big on EV investments. Doesn't mean it doesn't suck for the huge losses across the industry...
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why'd we dredge up a 2 year old topic?
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It’s amazing to me how so many dismiss losses in the billions and billions as no big deal.
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Such lean design, it's almost like it's not even there!
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