papilgee4evaeva Posted January 14, 2012 Share Posted January 14, 2012 Dude, he's been suspended because he's a troll. No point in responding to him. You guys work quick these days. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vision street wear 2 Posted January 14, 2012 Share Posted January 14, 2012 ford'com states Fall of 2012 so somtime between September 22 and December 21st of this year. Roughly end of August - Mid-September HAP ramp up will be done and production rate starts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlackHorse Posted January 14, 2012 Share Posted January 14, 2012 Dude, he's been suspended because he's a troll. No point in responding to him. The Spiderpig strikes!!! lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hugh Posted January 14, 2012 Share Posted January 14, 2012 The Spiderpig strikes!!! lol That's what you get for not looking up. Lame I know... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deanh Posted January 14, 2012 Share Posted January 14, 2012 The Spiderpig strikes!!! lol sniff, we need to be thrown a troll bone everynow and then.....keeps us sharp....lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atvman Posted January 14, 2012 Share Posted January 14, 2012 Nice angle: That color is absolutely fantastic. This is probably the best looking sedan under $50K. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atvman Posted January 14, 2012 Share Posted January 14, 2012 New Fusion versus Taurus versus Falcon, how close can you get: .Apart from 2" more hip and shoulder room Falcon is almost identical. Do we really need three cars this size? Fusion: First row headroom 39.2 First row legroom, maximum 44.3 First row shoulder room 57.8 First row hip room 55.0 Second row headroom 37.8 Second row legroom 38.3 Second row shoulder room 56.9 Second row hip room 54.4 Taurus: First row headroom 39.0 First row legroom, maximum 41.9 First row shoulder room 57.9 First row hip room 56.3 Second row headroom 37.8 Second row legroom 38.3 Second row shoulder room 57.8 Second row hip room 55.8 Falcon: First row headroom 39.8 First row legroom, maximum 42.4 First row shoulder room 59.9 First row hip room 58.5 Second row headroom 38.9 Second row legroom 38.9 Second row shoulder room 59.7 Second row hip room 58.0 Not making much of a case for the Taurus, that's for sure. The Fusion is obviously packaged better. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edstock Posted January 14, 2012 Share Posted January 14, 2012 AUTOBLOG has an link to a Ford site with details on the Fusion design: Ford tells the tale of the 2013 Fusion at fordfusionstory.com [w/video] All the pertinent details on the sharpest-looking sedan we've seen roll out of Dearborn in a long time are at fordfusionstory.com, a website optimized for tablet and smartphone viewing. The site went live on January 9, 2012, and provides overviews and deeper-dive information that's delivered through infographics, text, and video. With an easily shareable collection of elements designed for the way people communicate right now, Ford is showing that it takes selling the 2013 Fusion as seriously as the engineering and building part of the job. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
omelet1978 Posted January 14, 2012 Share Posted January 14, 2012 So the 2.0l ecoboost gets 23 city and 33 highway. I'm guessing combined it'll be 27. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichardJensen Posted January 14, 2012 Share Posted January 14, 2012 They might be able to round it up to 28. (23 * .55 + 33 * .45 = 27.5) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Havelock Posted January 14, 2012 Share Posted January 14, 2012 They might be able to round it up to 28. (23 * .55 + 33 * .45 = 27.5) The combined number is based on the non-rounded numbers for the city and highway....this is why vehicles with the same city and highway mileage on the sticker can have different combined mileages. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichardJensen Posted January 14, 2012 Share Posted January 14, 2012 I know. I was just pointing out that 28MPG isn't out of the question. Especially if the city & highway numbers were rounded down. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silvrsvt Posted January 14, 2012 Share Posted January 14, 2012 1326564761[/url]' post='757066']So the 2.0l ecoboost gets 23 city and 33 highway. I'm guessing combined it'll be 27. Damn that will be a nice improvement on my Mustang Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elmy311 Posted January 15, 2012 Share Posted January 15, 2012 I don't know if it was mentioned here or not as I haven't read through the 21 pages haha, but do we know when production/ordering starts? I noticed on the Ford website over the past week that they changed it from Spring, to summer, to now Fall of this year on the main page when you click on "Cars". Anyone know? My dad's lease on his MKZ is up in August and i'm hoping it will be on the lots around that time! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jpd80 Posted January 15, 2012 Share Posted January 15, 2012 Damn that will be a nice improvement on my Mustang Mustang with Falcon's 2.0 Ecoboost and ZF6HP21 gearbox, the sooner the two start sharing the better for all concerned. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vision street wear 2 Posted January 15, 2012 Share Posted January 15, 2012 I don't know if it was mentioned here or not as I haven't read through the 21 pages haha, but do we know when production/ordering starts? I noticed on the Ford website over the past week that they changed it from Spring, to summer, to now Fall of this year on the main page when you click on "Cars". Anyone know? My dad's lease on his MKZ is up in August and i'm hoping it will be on the lots around that time! Should start hitting dealers late August early sepember Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captainp4 Posted January 15, 2012 Share Posted January 15, 2012 (edited) I wonder if we will see a smaller EB combined with the hybrid system at some point to deliver on highway and city mileage. Maybe the 1.0L 3 cylinder or 1.6 in EB? Not that the highway mileage is bad by any means, and it's already way out in front of Camry, but it would really be something combined with EB. May be cost prohibitive though.. Edited January 15, 2012 by Captainp4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GT-Keith Posted January 15, 2012 Share Posted January 15, 2012 The 47MPG is amazing. I do wonder which pair of powertrains they're using to get that number. Maybe N/A is preferred for longevity issues. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iuswingman Posted January 16, 2012 Share Posted January 16, 2012 (edited) Wonder when they'll announce the prices. I'm interested in hearing what the base price is going to be for a 2013 fusion hybrid. Hopefully it drops in price from the current fusion hybrid similar to what Toyota did with the '12 camry hybrid. One article did mention that there is a Fusion Hybrid SE and Fusion Hybrid Titanium, If correct then the fusion will also have 2 trim levels for the hybrid version (not counting the plug-in version) Edited January 16, 2012 by iuswingman Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Biker16 Posted January 16, 2012 Share Posted January 16, 2012 The 47MPG is amazing. I do wonder which pair of powertrains they're using to get that number. Maybe N/A is preferred for longevity issues. they are using a version of the D20 used in the focus, with out DI. not the larger 2.5 they were using in the last generation Hybrid system. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Biker16 Posted January 16, 2012 Share Posted January 16, 2012 (edited) Ford tried to improve the situation by flying in a bunch of bloggers to write about the Fusion – and they were quite pleased with themselves for doing that, I might add, even though it mattered not one iota – but they didn’t really need to because in retrospect the Fusion is every bit as good and significant, if not more so, than it was upon its unveiling. It’s rare when a car arrives in a segment that not only redefines it but also completely changes the dynamic altogether, but the Fusion does exactly that. As I said last week, “suddenly the Malibu doesn’t reach far enough, the Sonata seems stale and the Camry looks easily ten years old.” And that’s saying a mouthful because those are seriously tough competitors, each and every one. But the Fusion truly transcends the segment, and those worthy competitors have been instantly relegated to second-tier status overnight. I’ve heard from the hand-wringers and their insistence that the new Fusion will price itself out of the segment and that the competition will eat Ford’s lunch based on that, but I don’t see that happening at all. What I do see is people wanting the best in the segment and flocking to the Fusion in droves, while paying a premium to boot. If this business is based on image being everything (and more on that later), then the new Fusion will be red hot the moment it hits the showrooms next fall. http://www.autoextremist.com/ Edited January 16, 2012 by RichardJensen Citation added Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iuswingman Posted January 17, 2012 Share Posted January 17, 2012 (edited) http://www.autoextremist.com/ I disagree with his statement that people will flock to the fusion regardless of price. It's a great looking car but how much of a premium does he think people will pay in this economy? If they don't price it competitively then it won't sell at a very high rate (aka tops in the segment). The people that can afford higher prices will be comparing it to luxury cars and those that can't will be looking at the best deal. Edited January 17, 2012 by iuswingman 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moosetang Posted January 17, 2012 Share Posted January 17, 2012 Ford has not cranked the Focus' price beyond reason, nor have they done so with the Taurus as it's been turned into a very premium-style vehicle. There will be Fusion Titaniums but there will also be Fusion SEs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akirby Posted January 17, 2012 Share Posted January 17, 2012 If they don't price it competitively then it won't sell at a very high rate (aka tops in the segment). Ford doesn't care if they're #1 in sales volume. They care about profits. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boss444 Posted January 17, 2012 Share Posted January 17, 2012 It’s rare when a car arrives in a segment that not only redefines it but also completely changes the dynamic altogether, but the Fusion does exactly that. As I said last week, “suddenly the Malibu doesn’t reach far enough, the Sonata seems stale and the Camry looks easily ten years old.” And that’s saying a mouthful because those are seriously tough competitors, each and every one. But the Fusion truly transcends the segment, and those worthy competitors have been instantly relegated to second-tier status overnight. Wow...he has driven all of them? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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