fuzzymoomoo Posted March 13, 2020 Share Posted March 13, 2020 43 minutes ago, probowler said: No, I kind of agree. I just think there might be a crowd of people who scoff at the idea of calling such a truck an F-series. They already won't like it because it's FWD and Unibody. You make a good point but consider this: there's really nothing like that on the market today so why not give it a unique (and new) name? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twintornados Posted March 13, 2020 Share Posted March 13, 2020 On 3/11/2020 at 7:54 PM, HotRunrGuy said: We had the answer earlier, F-50. Rename the Ranger as F-100, then all 4 models can be counted as "F-series" sales,,,,, HRG Ah, yes...also known as "The Oldsmobile Cutlass Strategy"... 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blksn8k2 Posted March 13, 2020 Share Posted March 13, 2020 Funny story about the Transit. I had a Fedex delivery a few months ago and the delivery van was a 2WD Transit. The driver drove off the edge of my driveway right in front of my garage where there is an almost two foot drop-off. Needless to say, with one rear wheel in the air he wasn't moving. There was just enough room to get my F-150 out of the garage and pull him back onto level ground. Turns out he a trainee with him. When I asked if he had learned anything he said "Yeah, don't drive into the ditch!". I also have a security camera in a tree which was right in front of their windshield. We all had a good laugh over that one. On the trucklet name, I think it kinda depends what your target market is. If it's commercial fleet sales then Courier makes a lot of sense. If not then Ranchero or something entirely new would be fine. The 60-65 Falcon Ranchero was probably about the same size. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rmc523 Posted March 13, 2020 Share Posted March 13, 2020 If it wasn't clear, I was completely joking about the F-050 name. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silvrsvt Posted March 13, 2020 Share Posted March 13, 2020 1 hour ago, rmc523 said: If it wasn't clear, I was completely joking about the F-050 name. I think its great...F-ZERO FIFTY LOL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theoldwizard Posted March 14, 2020 Share Posted March 14, 2020 On 3/12/2020 at 1:53 PM, Deanh said: On 3/12/2020 at 1:30 PM, silvrsvt said: How much demand is there for a full size van to be used as a passenger vehicle? Its been 40+ years since vans where cool last. um...we sell a $hitload of Transit passenger vans....and now theres AWD.... Family of 6 or more going on a vacation. Expedition works, but a nice full sized passenger van would be better ! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theoldwizard Posted March 14, 2020 Share Posted March 14, 2020 On 3/12/2020 at 3:18 PM, silvrsvt said: RMC hit my point-its not like people are buying these things for the most part as minivan/SUV replacements. I get there is a need for passenger vans, but theoldwizards requests seem more like a luxury type vehicle to travel long distances in. I would not call a the old Chateau Club Wagon a "luxury" vehicle. It just had 4 DECENT (US) adult sized seats ! The aftermarket conversion vans are WAY MORE EXPENSIVE ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theoldwizard Posted March 14, 2020 Share Posted March 14, 2020 On 3/12/2020 at 4:54 PM, MGolden said: Here is our family of 8 hauler. We had an Expedition and an E350 quigley. I agree the van is superior to the suv, at least for our family. I'm guessing you have 2 or 3 bench seats. Not the most comfortable for long trips and if you have a couple of high school football player in your brood you are not going to put more than 2 of them on that 3 person bench. Concur on the van being superior to a full sized SUV. When my daughter's family of 6 goes on vacation, they can barely fit their luggage in the back of their Expedition MAX. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
probowler Posted March 14, 2020 Share Posted March 14, 2020 SUVs: Style Over function Vans: Function over style 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jose Posted March 14, 2020 Share Posted March 14, 2020 On 3/13/2020 at 11:46 AM, rmc523 said: If it wasn't clear, I was completely joking about the F-050 name. I referred to my 2001 focus wagon as my f-.25. loved that car,abused the hell outa it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MKX1960 Posted March 15, 2020 Share Posted March 15, 2020 On 3/13/2020 at 6:20 AM, blksn8k2 said: On the trucklet name, I think it kinda depends what your target market is. If it's commercial fleet sales then Courier makes a lot of sense. If not then Ranchero or something entirely new would be fine. The 60-65 Falcon Ranchero was probably about the same size. If I had to choose between these 2, I'd pick Ranchero. To me, Courier has an import ring to it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HotRunrGuy Posted March 15, 2020 Share Posted March 15, 2020 9 hours ago, MKX1960 said: If I had to choose between these 2, I'd pick Ranchero. To me, Courier has an import ring to it. Well, it is coming from Mexico,,,, HRG 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
probowler Posted March 15, 2020 Share Posted March 15, 2020 I know that Ranchero is a classic Ford nameplate.... but boy does it sound kind of.... dated? I'm also not a big fan of Courier. I agree with Fuzzy, lets make a new name for a new kind of vehicle! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T hawker Posted March 15, 2020 Share Posted March 15, 2020 Ranchero, bc it is a classic Ford nameplate. For those that are too young to know the Ranchero nameplate...well it's all new to them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T hawker Posted March 15, 2020 Share Posted March 15, 2020 And thank you Ford. Not all home owners need a F150 for small clean-ups and home improvement tasks. Please, a 2 door AWD variant. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HotRunrGuy Posted March 15, 2020 Share Posted March 15, 2020 9 minutes ago, T hawker said: And thank you Ford. Not all home owners need a F150 for small clean-ups and home improvement tasks. Please, a 2 door AWD variant. and please, configure the box so a 4'x8' sheet of plywood or drywall can be brought home, even if it's hanging out the back. HRG 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MKX1960 Posted March 16, 2020 Share Posted March 16, 2020 14 hours ago, HotRunrGuy said: Well, it is coming from Mexico,,,, HRG Farther away than Mexico though. GM especially gets tons of crap for building so many cars in China and bringing them here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jpd80 Posted March 16, 2020 Share Posted March 16, 2020 2 hours ago, MKX1960 said: Farther away than Mexico though. GM especially gets tons of crap for building so many cars in China and bringing them here. The compact Ford pickup is scheduled to be built at Hermosillo. The only vehicle I'm aware of that GM imports from China is the Buick Envision.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sullynd Posted March 16, 2020 Share Posted March 16, 2020 1 hour ago, jpd80 said: The compact Ford pickup is scheduled to be built at Hermosillo. The only vehicle I'm aware of that GM imports from China is the Buick Envision.... Yeah, the CT6 PHEV came from China too, but that ended a while ago. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jpd80 Posted March 16, 2020 Share Posted March 16, 2020 1 hour ago, sullynd said: Yeah, the CT6 PHEV came from China too, but that ended a while ago. Thanks, that slipped my mind but really, had precious little exposure to China trade war. The big sneaky they pulled was setting up new products out of Mexico and culling car plants in USA. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fuzzymoomoo Posted March 16, 2020 Share Posted March 16, 2020 5 hours ago, sullynd said: Yeah, the CT6 PHEV came from China too, but that ended a while ago. All 27 of them.... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jpd80 Posted March 16, 2020 Share Posted March 16, 2020 (edited) Hilarious that when Mr Trump was chiding Ford for thinking of moving MKC to Mexico while GM was planning lots of production from there to replace US car production..... No doubt that’s now an alternate fact...... Edited March 16, 2020 by jpd80 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ausrutherford Posted March 16, 2020 Share Posted March 16, 2020 Ranchero makes even more sense it is Spanish and would be built in Mexico. Ford would also be exporting it into Latin America like Brazil and Argentina. Also, since Ford Oz is engineering, it will likely be built in Thailand as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jpd80 Posted March 16, 2020 Share Posted March 16, 2020 2 minutes ago, ausrutherford said: Ranchero makes even more sense it is Spanish and would be built in Mexico. Ford would also be exporting it into Latin America like Brazil and Argentina. Also, since Ford Oz is engineering, it will likely be built in Thailand as well. I have been reliably told that Australia is not developing the compact pickup, it’s home room for BOF T6 and some Chinese vehicles. This looks more like transit connect home room may be doing the work. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bzcat Posted March 17, 2020 Share Posted March 17, 2020 It mule was spotted in Australia a while ago doing some testing but agreed that it doesn't mean FoA is working on it. P758 feels more like a project driven by the Americas product team than Europe or Asia/Australia. My take is that there is basically a trio of "cheap" C2 vehicle programs: P758, Escort sedan, CX758/Territory i.e. a truck, a car, and a utility. P758 is emerging early because it was spun off Transit Connect program when it was supposed to be just an alternate bodystyle of Transit Connect. Australia and Shanghai are probably more likely to be working on Escort and Territory than P758. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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