AGR Posted February 18, 2022 Share Posted February 18, 2022 2023 Ford Everest Will Be Officially Revealed On March 1st (fordauthority.com) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Broncofan7 Posted February 18, 2022 Share Posted February 18, 2022 Always liked that suv. Good luck to Ford. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jasonj80 Posted February 18, 2022 Share Posted February 18, 2022 It is really too bad this isn't sold in the NA Market, 2 Row Edge replacement aimed at the Grand Cherokee. Completely different target market than the Bronco. 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ANTAUS Posted February 18, 2022 Share Posted February 18, 2022 I can totally see that, pick up where the last BOF Explorer left off, and pick up (space-wise) where the Edge is currently at. Doubt they will cannibalize themselves, considering Toyota has more SUVs, in their line-up. Interesting as much as we go forward, we always return to our roots. Next up, maybe a Ranger based minivan a'la Aerostar Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jpd80 Posted February 19, 2022 Share Posted February 19, 2022 This is the first time ever that the T6 Ranger and it’s T6 Everest sibling have been launched together, this promises to be very good for Ford in the Asia Pacific region. Ranger Raptor officially unveiled on Monday…. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bzcat Posted February 19, 2022 Share Posted February 19, 2022 The reason previous Everest was not in the US was simple... US was scoped out for the entire T6 program. Ford end up spending a lot of extra money to retrofit T6 Ranger and new gasoline engine/10 speed auto combo for the US but that money didn't flow down to Everest. Instead it went to green light the Bronco which was not a bad outcome, all things considered. It should be interesting now to see what happens to Everest because the new generation platform was designed with US market fully baked in the program. It will be super easy to certify it for sale in the US... if Ford can find a decent place to build it - demand for Ranger and Bronco is likely to keep Everest volume limited on a worldwide basis. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jpd80 Posted February 19, 2022 Share Posted February 19, 2022 (edited) 2 hours ago, bzcat said: The reason previous Everest was not in the US was simple... US was scoped out for the entire T6 program. Ford end up spending a lot of extra money to retrofit T6 Ranger and new gasoline engine/10 speed auto combo for the US but that money didn't flow down to Everest. Instead it went to green light the Bronco which was not a bad outcome, all things considered. It wasn’t a lot of money spent on North America T6 Ranger, basically final refresh of global Ranger with US EB 2.3 as an easy fit with no changes to crash protection,upgraded Frame and rear disc brakes that were a pull ahead of T6 Gen 2, the timing for that was as development of the next Gen architecture began so a placeholder that’s proven formidable against Colorado. At that time, the decision for next Gen product was Bronco as first vehicle, next Ranger and Everest after that. Everest was never considered for North America, a decision made under Fields as the feeling was that FNA had enough SUVs and that Everest was unnecessary internal competition, better to use that buil capacity for Bronco which was expected to be a big hit. T6 Everest arrived roughly four years after Ranger so contained a lot of upgrades that kept it fresher, I’m delighted that the addition of North America to the T6 fold has now made global alignment of Ranger and Everest, especially the Raptor package. Quote It should be interesting now to see what happens to Everest because the new generation platform was designed with US market fully baked in the program. It will be super easy to certify it for sale in the US... if Ford can find a decent place to build it - demand for Ranger and Bronco is likely to keep Everest volume limited on a worldwide basis. With inclusion of North America comes the ability for Global to do more things and access more options and features, Everest will remain outside North America but becomes more of a match for Prado/Landcruiser 200, V6 diesel promises a smoothness that the competition can only dream about, something buyers will pay a premium to get. Edited February 19, 2022 by jpd80 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Handler Posted February 19, 2022 Share Posted February 19, 2022 Is there a good business case for T6 replacing CD6 SUVs? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jpd80 Posted February 19, 2022 Share Posted February 19, 2022 21 minutes ago, The Handler said: Is there a good business case for T6 replacing CD6 SUVs? No I do think so, CD6 Explorer has wider track and good weight control as well as hybrid PHEV so they won’t mess with that just to get a BOF. production is already established at CAO, they won’t mess with that until they’re ready for a complete change to electric…. What is a lost moment for me was that CD6 Explorer was not done on two wheelbases short and long, under one project, the CD6 Edge could have been delivered years earlier but like so many other missteps (CD4 sedans) opportunity was missed to get scales of economy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bzcat Posted February 21, 2022 Share Posted February 21, 2022 We knew CD6 Edge was in fact a thing and went pretty far in development. I believe ultimately, with Europe dropping out and China lukewarm on the prospect, Ford just didn't want to invest in another CD6 production site in North America. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FordBuyer Posted February 21, 2022 Share Posted February 21, 2022 On 2/18/2022 at 9:02 PM, bzcat said: The reason previous Everest was not in the US was simple... US was scoped out for the entire T6 program. Ford end up spending a lot of extra money to retrofit T6 Ranger and new gasoline engine/10 speed auto combo for the US but that money didn't flow down to Everest. Instead it went to green light the Bronco which was not a bad outcome, all things considered. It should be interesting now to see what happens to Everest because the new generation platform was designed with US market fully baked in the program. It will be super easy to certify it for sale in the US... if Ford can find a decent place to build it - demand for Ranger and Bronco is likely to keep Everest volume limited on a worldwide basis. With the Edge gone soon, Ford is going to need a new 2 row CUV replacement with 75+ cubic feet of cargo space. And a price range between Escape and Explorer like the Edge. And electrified offerings unlike Edge. Hopefully Ford will show this replacement BEFORE the Edge leaves for good. . 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jpd80 Posted February 21, 2022 Share Posted February 21, 2022 5 hours ago, bzcat said: We knew CD6 Edge was in fact a thing and went pretty far in development. I believe ultimately, with Europe dropping out and China lukewarm on the prospect, Ford just didn't want to invest in another CD6 production site in North America. They already had sunk a lot of money into the SWB CD6s but instead of developing them with the original Explorer/Aviator, Ford basically doubled development costs. In any case, Hackett had diverted a lot of funding away from ICE which made it DOA. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akirby Posted February 21, 2022 Share Posted February 21, 2022 20 minutes ago, jpd80 said: They already had sunk a lot of money into the SWB CD6s but instead of developing them with the original Explorer/Aviator, Ford basically doubled development costs. In any case, Hackett had diverted a lot of funding away from ICE which made it DOA. With Explorer and Aviator BEVs perhaps there will be enough capacity in Chicago to do a SWB 2 row CD6 Edge replacement. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fuzzymoomoo Posted February 21, 2022 Share Posted February 21, 2022 6 hours ago, bzcat said: We knew CD6 Edge was in fact a thing and went pretty far in development. I believe ultimately, with Europe dropping out and China lukewarm on the prospect, Ford just didn't want to invest in another CD6 production site in North America. I saw it. I didn't really like it TBH. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rmc523 Posted February 22, 2022 Share Posted February 22, 2022 4 hours ago, fuzzymoomoo said: I saw it. I didn't really like it TBH. Hmm, interesting. I know you don't want to give too much away, but was it mini Explorer like? Or just didn't seem to look right? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jpd80 Posted February 22, 2022 Share Posted February 22, 2022 6 hours ago, fuzzymoomoo said: I saw it. I didn't really like it TBH. Initially, my thought was that it should have been a SWB Explorer (developed at the same time) but I’m wondering if the nice styling of the Explorer didn’t work that well on a shorter wheelbase vehicle. I do wonder though if a 114” wheelbase shorter two- row Explorer would have worked better than a separate Edge… Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fuzzymoomoo Posted February 22, 2022 Share Posted February 22, 2022 6 hours ago, rmc523 said: Hmm, interesting. I know you don't want to give too much away, but was it mini Explorer like? Or just didn't seem to look right? It looked like it didn't know what it wanted to be. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silvrsvt Posted February 22, 2022 Share Posted February 22, 2022 3 hours ago, fuzzymoomoo said: It looked like it didn't know what it wanted to be. I'm getting a feeling that it was a cross between the Escape and the Explorer and not in a good way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jpd80 Posted February 22, 2022 Share Posted February 22, 2022 (edited) 37 minutes ago, silvrsvt said: I'm getting a feeling that it was a cross between the Escape and the Explorer and not in a good way. I get the feeling that had they put the initial funding into a C2, we would have seen a remarkable vehicle with hybrid and PHEV. Edge failed in Europe because it was expensive and had a 2.0 diesel right when dieselgate blew up Edited February 22, 2022 by jpd80 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jpd80 Posted March 1, 2022 Share Posted March 1, 2022 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HotRunrGuy Posted March 1, 2022 Share Posted March 1, 2022 I like it! Too bad I can't buy it. HRG 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jpd80 Posted March 1, 2022 Share Posted March 1, 2022 (edited) 20 minutes ago, HotRunrGuy said: I like it! Too bad I can't buy it. HRG I’m happy with the effort, it sort of makes up for us antipodeans not getting Edge and Explorer but they still haven’t released a lot of the specs and dimensions which is a bit frustrating. diesels for most of Everest’s market except for China which will probably get the 2.3 EB. Edited March 1, 2022 by jpd80 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fuzzymoomoo Posted March 1, 2022 Share Posted March 1, 2022 Why why why why are they still doing reservations? It's been an unmitigated disaster so far. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T-dubz Posted March 1, 2022 Share Posted March 1, 2022 Really liking the sport trim. Also the interior accent lighting looks pretty cool. Is this also available on the ranger? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Rosadini Posted March 1, 2022 Share Posted March 1, 2022 Judging by the intro video, looks like a home run...job well done Aussies! Again too bad we wont see it in NA. But shocker ..no mention of electrification of any sort....don't the Aussies pay attention to what the "green new dealers" say we must have? No worries about where the juice comes from, just plug it in...someone, somewhere, will worry about generating the juice, mining the material for the batteries, and disposing of all that stuff when it reaches end of its life cycle. "Don't worry, be happy"! Look at how the Wall Street analysts have responded to Mr Farley's emphasis of electrics? That is all that matters. 5 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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