T-dubz Posted August 1 Share Posted August 1 10 minutes ago, rmc523 said: 2025 Ford Maverick Lobo revives the street-oriented sport truck - Autoblog Not sure why they actually used the Lobo name....I feel it won't resonate. They also called it "lobo" mode instead of sport mode. I still think the wheels look terrible. The last part of the visual transformation starts getting into the mechanical changes. The suspension is lowered and retuned, with the front dropping by half an inch, and the rear by 1.12 inches. The roofline drops by 0.8 inch. But the suspension is just the start. Brakes are upgraded with larger rotors, and up front the Lobo gets the dual-piston brake calipers from the European Ford Focus ST. They're still fitted with more comfort-oriented pads, but Ford representatives noted that this gives owners the more expensive parts up front, and leaves a cheap and easy upgrade on the table for enthusiasts. Another parts-bin upgrade is the steering rack, which uses the gear from the Ford Kuga for a quicker steering ratio than the standard Maverick. The radiator and fan come from the 4K Towing Package, and the transmission gets an oil cooler. That cooler is also connected to a seven-speed automatic transmission not available on other Maverick trims. Finally, a twin-clutch rear differential like on the Tremor is fitted to allow for torque vectoring. In combination with the Lobo drive mode, this helps to significantly reduce understeer under throttle. It also reduces stability control intervention. One of the few things not changed is the engine, which continues with 238 horsepower and 277 pound-feet of torque. With all the experience of designing the best looking sport trucks (lightning) that ever existed, you would think this would have been easy for ford, yet somehow they managed to screw this up. The wheels, grille, and name are all terrible. How hard is it to get a set of decent wheels? Literally anything would have been better. The new lariat wheels in all black would have looked great. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silvrsvt Posted August 1 Author Share Posted August 1 The turbo wheels are optional for the Lobo if you read the article. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akirby Posted August 1 Share Posted August 1 Agree on the Lobo name, but the rest is fine to me. Remember these aren’t traditional Ford truck buyers - a lot of owners came from Honda Civics. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T-dubz Posted August 1 Share Posted August 1 (edited) 3 hours ago, silvrsvt said: The turbo wheels are optional for the Lobo if you read the article. The turbo wheels are standard, but they are offering other optional wheels that aren’t shown. This is just ford’s way of getting more money out of you. Offer a wheel so ugly that you have no choice but to pay an extra $995 for optional wheels 😆. I think offering an appearance package with body colored bumpers, unique wheels and grille would have a better option. It keeps prices down, which is important to maverick buyers but still allows you to get a sporty look. Price also seems high for not getting any extra power. Both the standard and high lobo are thousands more than the current lariat. 42k would have been a reasonable price if it had the 2.3. edit: here are the optional wheels from the build and price. Only $100 extra which is surprising. Makes the wheels a non issue now. Edited August 1 by T-dubz Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ANTAUS Posted August 1 Share Posted August 1 ..."That cooler is also connected to a seven-speed automatic transmission not available on other Maverick trims."... Curious why it has a different transmission...anyone know why ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akirby Posted August 1 Share Posted August 1 7 minutes ago, ANTAUS said: ..."That cooler is also connected to a seven-speed automatic transmission not available on other Maverick trims."... Curious why it has a different transmission...anyone know why ? The only 7 speed fwd I know of is the one they used for the edge ST which is the old 6F55 with 2 additional gears. It was originally 8 speed but they locked out one gear with software. Maybe they did the same with the 6f35 here for better performance? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ice-capades Posted August 1 Share Posted August 1 2 hours ago, akirby said: Agree on the Lobo name, but the rest is fine to me. Remember these aren’t traditional Ford truck buyers - a lot of owners came from Honda Civics. I'd love to know how Ford decided on the Lobo model name. My impression is that the "Lobo" name sounds Hispanic related. Agreed that the Maverick is attracting a lot of non-traditional truck buyers. I just don't understand the attraction from Honda Civic owners. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silvrsvt Posted August 1 Author Share Posted August 1 1 minute ago, ice-capades said: I'd love to know how Ford decided on the Lobo model name. My impression is that the "Lobo" name sounds Hispanic related. Agreed that the Maverick is attracting a lot of non-traditional truck buyers. I just don't understand the attraction from Honda Civic owners. Lobo (Wolf) was used on the F-150 in Mexico and was also recently trademarked for the Maverick and F-150 in the US. The Maverick has a street truck/low rider vibe. The lowrider thing got started in the Southwest, so I'm guessing that is part of the reason why it was named that. As for the Civic thing-they are bought on price and gas mileage-the Maverick is fairly inexpensive and gets good gas mileage, plus is a light duty truck and is far more functional then a sedan....so that is the reason why? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deanh Posted August 1 Share Posted August 1 cool looking....but get onto ford.com and build one out....I got to 48k no problem....thats crazy 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akirby Posted August 1 Share Posted August 1 39 minutes ago, silvrsvt said: As for the Civic thing-they are bought on price and gas mileage-the Maverick is fairly inexpensive and gets good gas mileage, plus is a light duty truck and is far more functional then a sedan....so that is the reason why? Thats part of it but I don’t think you guys understand how much these trucks get customized just like Civics. Lowering kits, wheels, lots of little cosmetic things. This plays right into that demographic. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silvrsvt Posted August 1 Author Share Posted August 1 38 minutes ago, Deanh said: cool looking....but get onto ford.com and build one out....I got to 48k no problem....thats crazy What isn't crazily priced these days? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T-dubz Posted August 1 Share Posted August 1 2 hours ago, akirby said: The only 7 speed fwd I know of is the one they used for the edge ST which is the old 6F55 with 2 additional gears. It was originally 8 speed but they locked out one gear with software. Maybe they did the same with the 6f35 here for better performance? I’d guess you are right. The Alex on autos video mentions that they removed second gear from the 8 speed so it would spend more time accelerating and less time shifting. Also, it’s called the 7 speed quick shift transmission on build and price, so maybe it shifts faster? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Texasota Posted August 1 Share Posted August 1 When (probably not if) Ford adds Pro Power Onboard to this great little hybrid truck it will become even more irresistible. Having PPOB for back country, camping and various home/farm needs would make this compact truck even more useful. A Maverick with PPOB could power your house during a grid outage (e.g. hurricane Beryl) just like the F-150 Powerboost does. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExplorerDude Posted August 1 Share Posted August 1 There are plans for “Lobo” versions of the Ranger and F-150 as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
92merc Posted August 1 Share Posted August 1 I'd be suprised if PPOB makes it on this vehicle. Just too small of a platform. They're already putting the 12V battery in the back seat. Not sure where they'd shoe horn that in. Plus I've only seen PPOB available on the 10 speed transmission vehicles. The C2 hybrids are built different with e-CVT. It would have to be a whole new system. Not that I wouldn't like to see that available... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Texasota Posted August 1 Share Posted August 1 4 minutes ago, 92merc said: I'd be suprised if PPOB makes it on this vehicle. Just too small of a platform. They're already putting the 12V battery in the back seat. Not sure where they'd shoe horn that in. Plus I've only seen PPOB available on the 10 speed transmission vehicles. The C2 hybrids are built different with e-CVT. It would have to be a whole new system. Not that I wouldn't like to see that available... I don't think there is anything to show horn in for the Maverick hybrid. The Maverick's hybrid system is already capable of charging the HVB from the engine. They do need to upgrade parts of the electrical system like they did for the 2024 Ranger but that is entirely doable. After that, all they need to add is an inverter, outlet panel in the bed and software all of which is on the shelf stuff. I'm confident that we will see it on the next generation Maverick (obviously speculation on part). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rmc523 Posted August 1 Share Posted August 1 2 hours ago, T-dubz said: I’d guess you are right. The Alex on autos video mentions that they removed second gear from the 8 speed so it would spend more time accelerating and less time shifting. Also, it’s called the 7 speed quick shift transmission on build and price, so maybe it shifts faster? 2025 Ford Maverick Lobo Uses Edge ST's 7-Speed Transmission (fordauthority.com) Ford Authority is saying it's the same unit from the Edge ST, and that "QuickShift" is just a name change, that it's otherwise the same unit. 20 minutes ago, ExplorerDude said: There are plans for “Lobo” versions of the Ranger and F-150 as well. Makes sense - they've gone full offroad, and I think there's a market for a more "street"-oriented model. I know my dad would actually be more interested in a more road-focused sporty model than Raptor, as that's where it's getting used anyway. I'm not saying some super lowered thing that becomes useless as a truck, just something fast and sporty. I wonder if it'll use Raptor's powertrain(s?....Lobo R?), with more on-road geared performance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeluxeStang Posted August 1 Share Posted August 1 7 hours ago, rmc523 said: 2025 Ford Maverick Lobo revives the street-oriented sport truck - Autoblog Not sure why they actually used the Lobo name....I feel it won't resonate. They also called it "lobo" mode instead of sport mode. I still think the wheels look terrible. The last part of the visual transformation starts getting into the mechanical changes. The suspension is lowered and retuned, with the front dropping by half an inch, and the rear by 1.12 inches. The roofline drops by 0.8 inch. But the suspension is just the start. Brakes are upgraded with larger rotors, and up front the Lobo gets the dual-piston brake calipers from the European Ford Focus ST. They're still fitted with more comfort-oriented pads, but Ford representatives noted that this gives owners the more expensive parts up front, and leaves a cheap and easy upgrade on the table for enthusiasts. Another parts-bin upgrade is the steering rack, which uses the gear from the Ford Kuga for a quicker steering ratio than the standard Maverick. The radiator and fan come from the 4K Towing Package, and the transmission gets an oil cooler. That cooler is also connected to a seven-speed automatic transmission not available on other Maverick trims. Finally, a twin-clutch rear differential like on the Tremor is fitted to allow for torque vectoring. In combination with the Lobo drive mode, this helps to significantly reduce understeer under throttle. It also reduces stability control intervention. One of the few things not changed is the engine, which continues with 238 horsepower and 277 pound-feet of torque. I want to like it l, I just can't. It doesn't look great, a 40 grand price point negates the entire point of the maverick, and it doesn't even get a higher power output. In fact, for reasons no-one seems to know, the 2.0 has been defined for 2025. Longevity maybe? But I don't see 12 HP making much of a difference there. It doesn't seem like it's for emissions reasons either. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeluxeStang Posted August 1 Share Posted August 1 3 hours ago, akirby said: Thats part of it but I don’t think you guys understand how much these trucks get customized just like Civics. Lowering kits, wheels, lots of little cosmetic things. This plays right into that demographic. True, I thought about lowering mine, I'm just scared of messing around with the ride height too much. Those CV axles seem like they can't take it 😆. I might buy that roof spoiler from the sema body kit if it ever does go on sale, maybe some bigger rims as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T-dubz Posted August 1 Share Posted August 1 (edited) 1 hour ago, ExplorerDude said: There are plans for “Lobo” versions of the Ranger and F-150 as well. I’m all for sport truck versions of all these models, but I wonder if they did any focus group testing on the name? Seems strange to go full steam ahead with it. Lightning was a good name because it sounded fast. Lobo, not so much. what will they call it in Mexico? The lobo lobo? Edited August 1 by T-dubz 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HotRunrGuy Posted August 1 Share Posted August 1 8 hours ago, T-dubz said: The turbo wheels are standard, but they are offering other optional wheels that aren’t shown. This is just ford’s way of getting more money out of you. Offer a wheel so ugly that you have no choice but to pay an extra $100 for optional wheels 😆. edit: here are the optional wheels from the build and price. Only $100 extra which is surprising. Makes the wheels a non issue now. FTFY. HRG 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeluxeStang Posted August 2 Share Posted August 2 8 hours ago, ice-capades said: I'd love to know how Ford decided on the Lobo model name. My impression is that the "Lobo" name sounds Hispanic related. Agreed that the Maverick is attracting a lot of non-traditional truck buyers. I just don't understand the attraction from Honda Civic owners. Not a civic owner, but a former Kia Rio owner, which is like a civic but worse if you can imagine it. For years, our family was saying it would be nice to have a truck for those occasional trunk duties, hauling a couch, going to the home improvement store, etc. But our truck needs were never sufficient enough to justify the truck tax. I couldn't justify buying some huge, uncomfortable, gas guzzling, hard to park beast, just to throw some bags of sod into a few times a year. Then the maverick came along, and it was like a guilt free truck. All the truck utility, with none of the truck drawbacks. Long term reliability was the most important factor, and seems to be a major selling point of the maverick. So many cheap cars just fall apart. The maverick uses mostly bulletproof components aside from some truly shit CV axles. It's not gonna fall apart like a Kia soul. Good reliable, low ownership costs, good utility, good warranty, low price, good power, and good looks. The maverick offers a lot of appealing traits for very little money. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silvrsvt Posted August 2 Author Share Posted August 2 4 hours ago, T-dubz said: what will they call it in Mexico? The lobo lobo? Apparently the Lobo is the name of the higher end F-150 we have aka Lobo Platinum etc according to the Ford MX website. The F-150 is used on entry or fleet vehicles. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tbone Posted August 2 Share Posted August 2 16 hours ago, T-dubz said: With all the experience of designing the best looking sport trucks (lightning) that ever existed, you would think this would have been easy for ford, yet somehow they managed to screw this up. The wheels, grille, and name are all terrible. How hard is it to get a set of decent wheels? Literally anything would have been better. The new lariat wheels in all black would have looked great. Ford needs to fire their wheel designers. These wheels are terrible. Fortunately they do offer a better option. They jacked up the wheels on the 2025 Explorer as well. Last time I checked, there was no other wheel option for the ST, which needs to happen, stat! I really like the body color bumpers though. Glad to see them dump the black plastic. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rmc523 Posted August 2 Share Posted August 2 I'd have used a different name. Obviously they couldn't use Lightning anymore. But I don't see this name resonating with buyers. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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