92merc Posted November 23, 2019 Share Posted November 23, 2019 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
probowler Posted November 23, 2019 Share Posted November 23, 2019 On 11/22/2019 at 8:34 AM, PREMiERdrum said: OMG. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twintornados Posted November 23, 2019 Share Posted November 23, 2019 (edited) Here is to hoping Elon names the Cybertruck as Model AF so this way, the entire Tesla line can be S 3 X Y AF...... Edited November 23, 2019 by twintornados 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LoveTaurus Posted November 23, 2019 Share Posted November 23, 2019 Is it going to have tough body panels? I am nervous they are going to kill people in other vehicles in crashes. May be they were showing just a concept. May be they will surprise public with something else more normal looking closer to the sale date !? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
probowler Posted November 23, 2019 Share Posted November 23, 2019 28 minutes ago, LoveTaurus said: Is it going to have tough body panels? I am nervous they are going to kill people in other vehicles in crashes. May be they were showing just a concept. May be they will surprise public with something else more normal looking closer to the sale date !? Tough panels are going to kill people? ? This car could have the toughest doors in the world, but it won't be any more dangerous than getting creamed by an H1, an F350, a semi truck or a school bus. Cars are dangerous, accept it or get off the road. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Assimilator Posted November 23, 2019 Share Posted November 23, 2019 (edited) 1 hour ago, probowler said: I'll take 5! BTW... So suck it haters! And yeah, I'm kidding...counting a $100 deposit as an order is something only Elon Musk can get away with. Edited November 23, 2019 by Assimilator 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gurgeh Posted November 23, 2019 Share Posted November 23, 2019 38 minutes ago, Assimilator said: I'll take 5! BTW... So suck it haters! And yeah, I'm kidding...counting a $100 deposit as an order is something only Elon Musk can get away with. Wow. But yeah, Model 3 required $1,000. I expect a lot of that will end up being refunded. But until then, Tesla gets a nice interest-free infusion of $146 million -- and for a vehicle still two years away from release. What I just don't get is how it is technically and financially possible to produce as a $39,000 entry-level vehicle topping out at less than $70,000 for a 500-mile range, 0-60 in less than 3 seconds, with a tow rating of 14,000 lbs, all from an incredibly heavy vehicle with its body built with a (literally) rocket ship alloy of bullet-proof stainless steel. I don't think this is doable, but what do I know? I've been musing over whether the true purpose of the unveiling may have been to make the real upcoming Riven, GM and Ford trucks seem to be overpriced underperformers and to suppress their sales. But that's probably too Machiavellian for Musk, who honestly seems to believe all of his own hype. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LoveTaurus Posted November 24, 2019 Share Posted November 24, 2019 1 hour ago, probowler said: Tough panels are going to kill people? ? This car could have the toughest doors in the world, but it won't be any more dangerous than getting creamed by an H1, an F350, a semi truck or a school bus. Cars are dangerous, accept it or get off the road. I believe you have misunderstand my thinking. I knew about the F350, semi truck or school bus, etc. That's why...... I like to see newly designed vehicles to not only adding protection to it's own occupants, but also include in mind reducing damages to other vehicles during crashes. p.s. especially Tesla owners might take a nap on the hwy with autopilot on. ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2005Explorer Posted November 24, 2019 Share Posted November 24, 2019 In it's current form it'll never pass a crash test. Could you imagine the crash energy it will pass onto it's occupants with how it's built? I can't imagine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blwnsmoke Posted November 24, 2019 Share Posted November 24, 2019 13 hours ago, 2005Explorer said: In it's current form it'll never pass a crash test. Could you imagine the crash energy it will pass onto it's occupants with how it's built? I can't imagine. But isnt it bulletproof? Lmao Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kev-Mo Posted November 25, 2019 Share Posted November 25, 2019 What do you guys make of that 'Tug of War' video with a F150 (didn't say what configuration)? Even given it was staged to favor the Tesla, that looked horrible for the Ford- https://www.autoblog.com/2019/11/25/tesla-cybertruck-pulls-ford-f-150/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CurtisH Posted November 25, 2019 Share Posted November 25, 2019 6 minutes ago, Kev-Mo said: What do you guys make of that 'Tug of War' video with a F150 (didn't say what configuration)? Even given it was staged to favor the Tesla, that looked horrible for the Ford- https://www.autoblog.com/2019/11/25/tesla-cybertruck-pulls-ford-f-150/ I didn’t watch the video, but the picture I saw looked like a 2wd F150. A tug of war like that is all about traction The Tesla has much larger tires and is probably all wheel drive. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
probowler Posted November 25, 2019 Share Posted November 25, 2019 19 minutes ago, Kev-Mo said: What do you guys make of that 'Tug of War' video with a F150 (didn't say what configuration)? Even given it was staged to favor the Tesla, that looked horrible for the Ford- https://www.autoblog.com/2019/11/25/tesla-cybertruck-pulls-ford-f-150/ Well the F150 was in 2WD, so... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rperez817 Posted November 25, 2019 Share Posted November 25, 2019 2 hours ago, Kev-Mo said: What do you guys make of that 'Tug of War' video with a F150 (didn't say what configuration)? Even given it was staged to favor the Tesla, that looked horrible for the Ford- https://www.autoblog.com/2019/11/25/tesla-cybertruck-pulls-ford-f-150/ Ford engineers working on the BEV F-150 will make sure that a "Tug of War" between that vehicle and Tesla Cybertuck will favor the Ford. Game on! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rperez817 Posted November 25, 2019 Share Posted November 25, 2019 On 11/23/2019 at 6:56 PM, Gurgeh said: What I just don't get is how it is technically and financially possible to produce as a $39,000 entry-level vehicle topping out at less than $70,000 for a 500-mile range, 0-60 in less than 3 seconds, with a tow rating of 14,000 lbs, all from an incredibly heavy vehicle with its body built with a (literally) rocket ship alloy of bullet-proof stainless steel. Cybertruck's design eliminates a lot of capital and operating costs associated with traditional pickup truck manufacturing. Plus Cybertruck electronics modules will probably have the same amazingly high level of system integration Model 3 does. That's another big cost advantage for Tesla. Motor Trend explained the manufacturing cost advantages. https://www.motortrend.com/news/tesla-cybertruck-electric-pickup-engineering-manufacturing/ "The plusses for a folded stainless steel, origami truck are compelling: no paint shop and no expensive tooling. No Godzilla-scale stamping machines stomping it with multiple strikes. Without all that, the capital and environmental costs of using stainless steel body panels are small. And big attractions for a company that's sensitive to both types of green—cash and environmentalism. Just groove the steel where it's supposed to fold (avoiding cracks) and bend it on simple, cheap machines (like I was actually doing last week with my garage vise!)" 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silvrsvt Posted November 26, 2019 Share Posted November 26, 2019 4 hours ago, rperez817 said: Motor Trend explained the manufacturing cost advantages. https://www.motortrend.com/news/tesla-cybertruck-electric-pickup-engineering-manufacturing/ AKA we are going to follow the example of a failed car company from nearly 40 years ago...this just reeks of cheapness. I'm sure a percentage will eat it up like rest of the Tesla zealots. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silvrsvt Posted November 26, 2019 Share Posted November 26, 2019 Consumers complaining about multiple charges for pre orders on cyber truck https://www.roadandtrack.com/new-cars/a29990778/tesla-cybertruck-orders/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Assimilator Posted November 26, 2019 Share Posted November 26, 2019 (edited) Edited November 26, 2019 by Assimilator Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kev-Mo Posted November 26, 2019 Share Posted November 26, 2019 You can have one in any color you want as long as it is Stainless Steel Sheetmetal. There was a time when that would be a bad idea, but most vehicles color today fall somewhere between black and white. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sullynd Posted November 26, 2019 Share Posted November 26, 2019 8 minutes ago, Kev-Mo said: You can have one in any color you want as long as it is Stainless Steel Sheetmetal. Ive seen elsewhere there may be a black stainless option. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fordmantpw Posted November 26, 2019 Share Posted November 26, 2019 Since most of these trucks will be found in mall parking lots, it's going to be fun trying to figure out which truck is yours when you come out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jcartwright99 Posted November 26, 2019 Share Posted November 26, 2019 9 minutes ago, fordmantpw said: Since most of these trucks will be found in mall parking lots, it's going to be fun trying to figure out which truck is yours when you come out. So you think these actually get built? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rmc523 Posted November 26, 2019 Share Posted November 26, 2019 21 hours ago, rperez817 said: Cybertruck's design eliminates a lot of capital and operating costs associated with traditional pickup truck manufacturing. Plus Cybertruck electronics modules will probably have the same amazingly high level of system integration Model 3 does. That's another big cost advantage for Tesla. Motor Trend explained the manufacturing cost advantages. https://www.motortrend.com/news/tesla-cybertruck-electric-pickup-engineering-manufacturing/ Aka, if we make a featureless, slab-sided design, we don't have to design anything. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fordmantpw Posted November 26, 2019 Share Posted November 26, 2019 1 hour ago, jcartwright99 said: So you think these actually get built? That's still up in the air. I'm still not sure it will be produced, at least not by Tesla. I think they will go belly up or someone will buy them out before then. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kev-Mo Posted November 27, 2019 Share Posted November 27, 2019 22 hours ago, sullynd said: Ive seen elsewhere there may be a black stainless option. Not to be confused with a Samsung Refrigerator... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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